Seduction and Peacock Theory in Islam
Here is a copy of a post I found on another website.
Whiteboy Kaffir Wants to be the New Muslim Pick Up Artist!
FROM Whiteboy Kaffir, Dublin, Ireland, May 16, 2007
"ive gone out with a couple of muslim girls now..
the first was a palestinian girl and now im with an indonesian girl..
i do it for my christian brothers around the globe.
im sick of the intolerant attitutes whereby its ok if muslim men date our women but not ok if we date their women!!
so i purposefully went about my way to use my good whiteboy looks and charm to swoon these forbidden fruits from the clutches of islam. i have to say, the palestinian girl was hot - i like arab girls.. the indonesian is too but there is somthing more satisfiying taking a muslim girl from the "holy land" haha!
So i urge all my christian brothers around the globe to use their influence to bed as many muslims girls as possible.. perhaps if it gets serious she will ask u to convert - ridiculous right? all to please the family and community.. well what abt christian families and communities? if you are not lucky enough to get her to convert then do so yourself until after marriage - then convert back.. whatever you do, make sure the children will be christian..
remember what Jesus said "love your enemy"...
It is interesting to see the mentality of people. When Muslims talk about the issue of marriage and whether we as Muslims are allowed to marry People of the Book, we sometimes forget the requirements and difficulties that go with this situation.
I am not claiming to be an expert, but having a mother that was originally a Christian gives me a perspective that most people don't see.
Am I against Muslim men marrying Jewish or Christian women? No. Of course not. That would be silly! It is just that I am suggesting the work and effort that goes into the process is a lot for most people to handle. Many Muslim parents have a hard enough time raising their children to be Muslims in this society, let alone raising them with a spouse who is not a practicing member of the same faith.
Is it true that Christian men feel like Muslim men are stealing their women? I tend to think that this philosophy is a little underdeveloped. There are plenty of fish in the sea. This conversation always leads to the reasoning behind the ban on Muslim women marrying non-Muslim men. As you can even see from a person who has absolutely no intelligence, even a Neanderthal feels like you should make sure your kids are Christian.
It is always surprising to me that many of the younger generation of Muslim men (boys) ask me questions about marrying from the People of the Book here in the United States;they always are unsure about how they will raise their kids.
It is even worse when they ask me, " Is necessary to make sure that the kids are Muslim or can they be Christian if they want?"
It is true, you get questions like this all the time. My opinion is that if you are asking this type of question, you should not even be getting married to the non-Muslim girl. Why? Not because she is not a Hottie, but because you are not man enough to handle it. Where are the MEN?
You have to be a man and be on your game to deal with all the situations that will come up. And, if you dont know the answer to the question about if your kids will be Christian or Muslim, you should not be getting married. You are not qualified, brother!
Here is a quote from another Christian telling Whiteboy Kaffir off!
I must say, Whiteboy Kaffir, that your approach to this issue really concerns me.
Primarily the statement,
'So i urge all my christian brothers around the globe to use their influence to bed as many muslims girls as possible'
This is not Christian behaviour. As Christians we shouldnt be 'bedding' any woman, Muslim, Christian, Atheist, before we are married.
Now, I am rambling! Clearly there is need for greater dialog and understanding. People are not looking at this from a Human point of view. Having a good wife or marriage is a common desire that crosses religious lines. This guy is out to be the next Pick Up Artist - not something that is nice to hear. But then, he does call himself Whiteboy Kaffir, and Muslim girls do go for the classic White Boys! There are all kinds of Arab Women, just look at the pictures here!
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MUSLIM WOMEN r HOTTTT ! I need some !
Posted by: Y | Monday, July 19, 2010 at 01:18 AM
Alright, as a Christian man, I rebuke White Boy for being a moron. Clearly, you shouldn't try to bed women for sport.
However, I agree with White Boy on one point: that it's hypocritical for Muslim women to be forbidden from dating/marrying non-Muslim men, but okay for Muslim men to date non-Muslim women. My question is, does it say this in the Quran, or has it become religious doctrine--because it just doesn't seem correct.
As a Christian man, I would love to date/marry a Muslim woman. It's the truth! Why? Because I see that Muslim women are more traditional, conservative and God-fearing than many other women. Of course, we should judge individuals by their behavior and not generalize, but I for one would have a hard time marrying a liberal-type Christian, who doesn't really understand scripture or care to (of which there are many--mostly Catholics). It's difficult to find a woman who is religious as well as beautiful :)
In my view, ultimately, it's not about whether you are a Jew, Muslim, or Christian. It's about whether you are a true believer in God and understand ALL 3 Holy books in their TOTALITY and accept your responsibility in this life or not. This is why I think it's okay for two strong believers to marry and have children. In fact, I think this is what God envisions for the benefit of society--otherwise, we get bitter and divided like we are now.
Also, if this one change were made, I believe it would RADICALLY change the whole WORLD for the better. Think about it. If more Christian men married Muslim women, then Muslim beliefs and ideas would become more mainstream than they are now. The media would have a tougher time trying to stereotype Muslims. It would be harder for the media to turn the people against Muslims if many Americans are part Muslim, or if they know Muslims and are friends with Muslims. This is the main problem right now. Islamic culture is WAY TOO INSULAR. They need to spread out and mingle with others (and most importantly, other BELIEVERS). Lead by example, spread the word of God. In my perspective, CHRISTIANS are much better at doing this than MUSLIMS. This is the downfall of MUSLIMS, unfortunately.
In the Bible, it says something to to the effect of: "A non-believing husband is sanctified through marriage with a believing wife and a non-believing wife is sanctified through marriage with a believing husband.' But I'm not even advocating two non-believers getting together. I'm advocating two BELIEVERS getting together, whether they be Christian, Muslim, or Jew and spreading the seed of faith that way (not to be crude).
I'm also part Latin and maybe it comes through with my viewpoints on things. But remember, Latin countries always conquered by marrying into the families of indigenous peoples (Mexico, Brazil, Argentina etc). Unlike the British, who occupy and economically dominate throughout history. Or any other INSULAR country or race that refuses to mingle with anyone--that's INHUMANE.
Make LOVE not war.
Posted by: Rob | Saturday, July 17, 2010 at 01:11 PM
YOU FUCKIN ASSHOLE BITCH! WHO DO YOU THINK MUSLIM GIRLS ARE? SOME SORT OF TOYS!GO DIE I HOPE THEIR FAMILIES HUNT YOU DWN. What sort of Christianity is this to bed as many muslim girls? you sex addict tramp...hope you rot in hell!!
Posted by: Sabrina | Saturday, June 19, 2010 at 04:31 AM
May Allah give guidance to us all!! Ameen!!
Posted by: Rosh | Thursday, June 03, 2010 at 12:25 PM
Good stuff, I agree with this guy. I was with a turkish muslim girl from istanbul. But she didnt wear that ugly head scarf or the robes, she wore those tight jeans had black hair and brown eyes, I myself am dirty blond and blue eyes guy from Europe and it was intriguing to me. I have a thing for the dark haired, dark eyed chicks.... dont know why. The hottest thing was that we had to keep it secret for the sake of her family, who knows..... her dad would probably track me down and behead me for sleeping with her. Risk was too high so we split. But good memories :))
Posted by: Alec | Tuesday, May 25, 2010 at 05:48 PM
Although I am a Christian, I would say that the best people are Muslims and Islam the best religion in the universe
Posted by: Tom | Tuesday, May 25, 2010 at 02:59 AM
Why muslin can with a christian? Because we are very different
Posted by: Camara Moumouni | Monday, May 17, 2010 at 02:27 AM
dear christian girl
i like you for my life till my death. if you help me i can change my religion. but give me help.
atharjameel@rediffmail.com
Posted by: athar jameel | Sunday, May 16, 2010 at 02:02 PM
hello whiteboy
i'm so sorry for you. please as much as you can fuck muslima girls.use anything possible to hurt them they are hypocrite girls,liars and malicious they are like a virus or a cancer in the body . you are 100% right my friends. just one thing please don't speak by the name of religens bacaus the three religens islam,chritianity,jewsh are good.but the problem in the people.specially the muslims. islam is whit like you but the muslims are trading by the name of islam but they are not muslims, only they have name and they give bad reputations for islam.finally don't forget my friend fuck muslima girls as much as you can. you are a hero you a king you are a brave man. god bless you white boy. i hope he will give you more power to fuck muslima girls.
Posted by: ali | Sunday, May 02, 2010 at 08:35 AM
hello devel, ooh sorry white boy, your christianty is cleaner than you discribe it ,there is no much difference between islam and christiantiy. both of them invite people for good things. if your christianity tell you to do that it is shit chritianity.but i don't think so i a muslim and i have a good knowledge about your chritianity .
i think you talk by the name of devel. so, you can say i do that for my devel. okay shit white boy.
Posted by: ali | Sunday, May 02, 2010 at 01:43 AM
The girls that he slept with were not stedfast. No true muslimah would continously fornicate. He slept with gals that were muslims in name only. Every faith has them. This guy is courting disaster.
Posted by: Emaan | Sunday, April 04, 2010 at 09:51 AM
No Islam Is not Allow to marry A Muslim girl to a non muslim without converting his religious
Posted by: GOD IS GREAT | Thursday, April 01, 2010 at 01:27 PM
ROFL, this is hilarious. Was having a bad day, this "White boy Kuffar" dumbass really made my day, anyone know if he's written any other loads of BS recently?
"im sick of the intolerant attitutes whereby its ok if muslim men date our women but not ok if we date their women!!"
Hmmmm......Muslim men can date?!! Really??!! WTF??!! No one told me that!!! I am 17 & have never been with a girl - Muslim or Non-Muslim - this sucks monkey balls. I feel like such a loser. LMFAO.
Muslims don't date anyone, regardless of religion. If you like a Muslim, well, liking him/her is the most you can do, because unless they're arab/persian cunts they wont date you.
And is this what Christianity teaches Christian guys? To bed as many women as possible? And Muslims are your enemies? Damn, what a religion. Not that we Muslims give a flying fuck, but dayumm haha.
Posted by: Waqas | Wednesday, March 31, 2010 at 11:14 PM
hi every one
I'm a moslim girl and I'm in love with a christian guy, he is good kind decent and we want to marry, and I don't want him to convert to Islam because he is good and nice as he is , but the big probleme is my family
why moslim man can marry a christian woman but we can not do the same? why we can not be free in our choices?
Posted by: Dolce | Wednesday, March 24, 2010 at 06:49 AM
there is no need to mention or discuss statements by disbelievers who write non-sense stuff about islam & muslims. why to give any hype/publicity to such people for the sake of showing your pure and intelligent thoughts.
Posted by: k k | Sunday, February 28, 2010 at 01:56 PM
the ladies with him were dummies no wonder why they slept with him...
funny guy!sooooo ignorant
and talking like 15 year old boy..~
Posted by: who..cares | Thursday, February 04, 2010 at 08:31 PM
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Posted by: abdalrahman shalapy | Wednesday, January 13, 2010 at 12:27 PM
نحن المسلمون نحب جميع البشر لا نحقد عليهم كما انتم تفعلون وكما انتم تطلقون علينا القاب المعادون فقط احق بها(فالتطرف والارهاب والتنظيمات انتم تعرفونها والتحرش بالنساء انتم تعرفونة) لكن نحن نحب صيانة المراة وعفافها فلا مانع من الزواج بالنساء الكتابيات طالما هذا يحقق لها الصيانة والعفة لا التعري وليس هدفنا من الزواج بالكتابيات ان نلد منها طفل مسلم فلدينا النساء كثيرات
ابحثوا فى الاسلام وتعرفوا علية
Posted by: massoud55 | Monday, January 04, 2010 at 04:19 PM
Hey I remember in another article you said you were gay!! WTF man. dont go back on your gay belief join our church
Posted by: George Marr | Monday, December 21, 2009 at 10:04 PM
Haha
idiot
do know that as soon as she goes out alone with you, she is out of the fold of Islam, let alone if she sleeps with you.
haha
what an idiot?
Posted by: ME | Thursday, November 19, 2009 at 03:07 PM
HAR..HAR..HAR!! AWESOME!!! Fishes got hooked by a drunk fisherman...! Don't eat the bait! Especially a statement that came from a "Whiteboy Kaffir" out from "Nowhere Land" in Dublin (DUUH...),he's probably swimming in the pool full of beer when he wrote his thread,after rejected many times with many girls (or old ladies)hehehe....Also,don't get burned with a comment from "FUCK YOU" boy,who'd probably think more with his genital than his brain. All religions guide us how to lead our life in goodness. No doubt about it. Why muslims girls are forbidden to date non-muslims? Instead of making wild assumption,have a good study about Islamic World. Enlighten your minds.May peace be with you all.
Posted by: Damkina | Tuesday, November 10, 2009 at 10:16 AM
Nobody should be talking bad about eachother's religon unless they have researched about it and found the RIGHT knowledge.
Personaly, I have researched Islam and it had reasons for everything. Women can't marry christian or jewish men for a reason. And to tell you the truth, it was right.
You people should research it too....then comment.
Posted by: john | Saturday, November 07, 2009 at 10:38 PM
"I am a mixed race, I am half jewish, mexican, and European. Typical American..haha... anyways, I am seeing a Muslim boy from Duabi, he is very nice, and needless to say he is a good man, I do not have to worry about him, I am a Messianic Christian waiting for marriage, He is also waiting for marriage. We met at school, and I have liked him for a long time, but only recently have we expressed our mutual interest in each other. We are both respecting each others views in life and have discussed our possibilities of a future together, I am unsure as of yet, we are both still getting to know each other, but if we are what I consider soul mates. I will not think twice or listen to what people say, He has already proved that he cares for me, two of his friends have made comments and tried to seperate us, but he defended me, as I have done with my grandparents. My mother and Father Love each other very much and there love was forbidden. I am mentioning this to anyone saying that they are looking for advice, my parents are very happy and successful, please follow your hearts, and do not spread hate to the world, but peace. I wish whole heartedly that we could all be friends and not have to worry about these conflicts which society has given us.
I know I am talking to much or rather thinking and typing...haha... but I am just a typical female... hoplessly Romantic, but I must say when you marry your best friend you have something that can not and may not be purchased.
If ever anyone who is in my situation and needs or wants advice or even a friend to chat with about this please contact me via Myspace. I will not tolerate any foul language or disrespect of any religion or race. I seek peace and happiness and I wish you all the same.
www.myspace.com/do_you_know_the_real_me
May I add that I do not appreciate men trying to seduce woman of anyrace or religion, leave the good girles alone, They are saving themselves out of love for themselves and their future spouses. If you think she is attractive be kind to her and she will do the same, all woman are beautiful in there own way, and I seek beauty from within, you may think I am just an ugly duckling for saying that, But I will say this only once...("I believe that Beauty only captures the attention and personality will capture the heart.")
Well I am done expressing myself, and will continue my search for advice, I must say i am a little worried about his parents likeing or disliking me.(Hehe... laughs nervously in small tone of voice and then admits to all she is such a nerd haha....) Yes I am a Nerd but Thank God I dont look it! When I take off my glasses haha... ^_^
Posted by: Nesicha_Layla | Saturday, October 24, 2009 at 02:45 PM
I think this website has two blade destinations.
It talks about Islam (good), but there is also some story like this one, which is lead Islam or Muslim to be a "bad one", which I think this web site is like a conspiracy or something.
But one thing for sure in TV media, news paper, and WWW internet etc. The story about Islam is not fair. Whole media try to make Muslim or Islam to be like radical or something..but in very smooth way.
I better look at the old history. This cannot be fooled around by media. In the old war (crucifixion war)..the Islam army is much better (not killing children and woman, old people, burn city and treat people equal to Muslim) than the Christian/Jew army.
Posted by: jhon909 | Thursday, October 15, 2009 at 09:20 PM
I am a muslim girl in love with a white atheist guy. This is seen as unacceptable in my community so I have to keep it hidden for the moment as I don't want to bring shame to my family but I feel in time I will have to as I don't believe in a God who believes people of different races and religions should be kept apart because of their beliefs. I have feelings and emotions and it is impossible to pick and choose who you will fall in love with. Though I am hurting my family and seem to enrage other muslims strangers who see me with him (heckling, throwing things!!!), I refuse to give up on us. This narrow minded kind of thinking is exactly the reason why so many people are more unhappy than happy.
Posted by: Iloveawhiteguydealwithit | Saturday, October 03, 2009 at 01:58 PM